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Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:20 am

Hey,

Quite frankly, your mods are abusive and overbearing as stated by many players.

I just got muted without even so much as a warning by a mod in 18 chat. How about you get the hell out of 18 chat and create a non-ruled chat. I stay in 18 to have discussions with like-minded individuals.

Yeah, maybe the subject wasn't the best subject to discuss (rough/rape/bdsm porn) which is all acting which is what we were discussing but dude... make your mods give warnings, make them do something besides oh I don't like what you said, good fight muted for 1 hr.

Everyone hates your mods including me. I will never donate to your game with the way they act. Honestly, its embarrassing.

I suggest that you make a chat where adults can speak without moderation. Unless a person is being directly offensive to an individual get the hell off their nuts. That would be awesome. It's impossible to speak freely on your game for fear of random muting.

Meanwhile, people can say whatever the hell they want about most subjects, but if mod deems 1 not to his/her liking, goodfight.

Grow the hell up is all that I can suggest. I realize your game is supposed to be pg-13, but if you make an 18 channel it should be pretty free of moderation or at least give warnings before you just go hey change the subject, here's a mute to go with it.

Like dude said change the subject and before we had the chance, instant mute.

Honestly I feel like this person is worse than a person because of that. Like is literally below me. :lol:

Also, I don't care what anyone else's opinion is on the matter because I was in 18, got muted without warning, and enough people complain about your mods that its obvious something's wrong.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby volldepp » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:29 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. The other mods are nice. That guy's the problem.

Most of the female mods are great. They help people especially the new ones and warn people appropriately before muting someone when the perpetrator deliberately ignores/provokes them. All mods are strict but that guy's a Nazi.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:35 am

Sad part is, instead of making changes like a majority of the community would prefer... this post will end up locked and buried amongst the many other complaints that stop this game from reaching its full potential.

Like I guarantee you if they had a chat where moderators were not allowed, it would stay pretty busy. They have like 20 other chats, just make a non-moderated chat, pop up a little non-disclosure agreement, let it go.

End this stupid never-ending dilemma with opinionated moderation. Some mods mute for some reasons, some don't. Like I honestly just want a chat with no moderators. I know others do too. Do a straw poll or something. I know the results with be overwhelming.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Gnominomicon » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:08 am

Zulrah wrote:Yeah, maybe the subject wasn't the best subject to discuss (rough/rape/bdsm porn)

Justified. If the topic involves rape, real or not, any mod would have shut it down. 18 is not completely unmoderated, and shouldn't be. If you want unmoderated chat, feel free to get Premium and create your own private channel.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:19 am

No, see once again i'd never donate to this game because of the way the moderation is.

Lots of people have talked about porn and said rape on multiple occasions in 18.

The issue is mute without warning. You need a standardized game-created channel that allows players to enter and speak freely without risk of constant opinionated muting.

This is my suggestion and solution for the overwhelmingly high rate of dissatisfaction with the mods and their mutes. We simply need a channel that anyone can access where they can speak openly about whatever.

Try and grasp that concept for a moment. Unless it is spam or directed as a threat to another person it should be free to speak about.

There are like 20 chats made for this game I think you can convert one to a non-filtered/moderated chat and solve the many, many complaints.

Back seat modding is fun too.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Gnominomicon » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:36 am

The only way you're going to get a completely unmoderated channel is to make your own. If you don't want to support the game, you can always buy a Premium scroll from someone else, or you can quit and be done with it.

We do not need an unmoderated channel, 18 is close enough, and it's literally a cesspool of garbage mouthed preteens who never talk about anything relevant. Hint, porn is not relevant.

Any time rape is brought up as a topic, it should be immediately shutdown. If it isn't, then that means the mods are AFK and it needs to be reported for later reviewal. Talk about porn all you want, but keep rape out of it.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no freedom of speech on the internet. You are accessing a privately owned entity and you agree to adhere to their rules and regulations when you create your account. Any refusal to adhere is grounds for removal of access, whether it be a simply mute or a ban.

If you want to troll and discuss sick and disgusting topics, go sub WoW.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:06 am

Gnominomicon wrote:The only way you're going to get a completely unmoderated channel is to make your own. If you don't want to support the game, you can always buy a Premium scroll from someone else, or you can quit and be done with it.

We do not need an unmoderated channel, 18 is close enough, and it's literally a cesspool of garbage mouthed preteens who never talk about anything relevant. Hint, porn is not relevant.

Any time rape is brought up as a topic, it should be immediately shutdown. If it isn't, then that means the mods are AFK and it needs to be reported for later reviewal. Talk about porn all you want, but keep rape out of it.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no freedom of speech on the internet. You are accessing a privately owned entity and you agree to adhere to their rules and regulations when you create your account. Any refusal to adhere is grounds for removal of access, whether it be a simply mute or a ban.

If you want to troll and discuss sick and disgusting topics, go sub WoW.


1) rape/bdsm/rough porn - which btw is discussed all the time and is acting with actors.

2) You do need a channel where people can speak freely with exceptions to racisms/threats/advertisements. Why? Because people do not make it very far in this game without being muted and their subjects are often much less than porn.

3) Though there is no freedom of speech on this particular games, most games allow you freedom of speech in some areas of the game i.e an "18" channel without moderation.

4) The way you throw anyone in 18 channel in a category of preteens is exactly why I feel that your a bad person. You're just another backseat mod with no tolerance of anyone that thinks outside of your own opinions.

5) In most games people discuss things that aren't relevant i.e real life. Yeah, so we aren't discussing are dps calculations and how many kills it takes to get a drop off orc overload. Guess what, that is what people like to talk about from time to time over video games.

6) I haven't trolled or discussed sick or disgusting topics. That's your own opinion, and as far as females go I bet you'd find that your own beliefs differ from a majority of people. I.e, have a look at people that read fifty shades of grey, or many other adults literatures.

7) A warning - a direct warning to the person offending, especially in 18 would probably be suitable don't you think? If the person is stopped via muting or via warning then are the same goals not accomplished?


Let me break this down to you in an IQ-friendly example.

Sam's club establishes a no loitering rule finable by 500$ to prevent heavy traffic.

Two customers recognize each other and begin talking in the parking lot.

Should security A) slap them both with a 500$ fine or B) Warn them of the rule and ask them politely to stop

The answer is B. Why? Because they are customers/potential customers and if they get fined without warning chances are they won't come back and spend any money.

Money is what keeps the store open and the security guard employed. Can you perhaps comprehend the comparison?
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Gnominomicon » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:19 am

1. Rape is disgusting, period. I don't care if it's fake or not. If that's your fetish, whatever, but keep it to yourself. No, it is not discussed all the time, because any time I have seen it brought up over my three years of playing, a mod shuts it down immediately.

2. We have that channel, it's 18. However, highly offensive topics, such as rape, are still not allowed.

3. I have been playing online games for 15 years and sorry, but no, most games do not have a completely unmoderated public channel. Private channels and guild channels, sure.

4. I would never want to be a mod and have to babysit you children all the time.

5. I didn't say you had to talk specifically about the game, but rape is never an appropriate topic.

6. See 1.

7. If you've been playing this game as long as you're implying you have, you should know the rules.

As for your example, a few whiny kids quitting isn't going to impact the game. RPG MO has been going strong for over 4 years, and the population has only grown. They're making plenty to pay for the servers, so they don't need your help.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:30 am

Gnominomicon wrote:1. Rape is disgusting, period. I don't care if it's fake or not. If that's your fetish, whatever, but keep it to yourself. No, it is not discussed all the time, because any time I have seen it brought up over my three years of playing, a mod shuts it down immediately.

2. We have that channel, it's 18. However, highly offensive topics, such as rape, are still not allowed.

3. I have been playing online games for 15 years and sorry, but no, most games do not have a completely unmoderated public channel. Private channels and guild channels, sure.

4. I would never want to be a mod and have to babysit you children all the time.

5. I didn't say you had to talk specifically about the game, but rape is never an appropriate topic.

6. See 1.

7. If you've been playing this game as long as you're implying you have, you should know the rules.

As for your example, a few whiny kids quitting isn't going to impact the game. RPG MO has been going strong for over 4 years, and the population has only grown. They're making plenty to pay for the servers, so they don't need your help.



So anyone that thinks differently from yourself is a child. I get it.

Also, I haven't implied I have played long, I just started. Like two days ago. Which is why when I see people talking about anal sex in 18 I pretty much figured it was a free channel. Which is why, yes warnings are appropriate if not necessary for effectiveness.

Also I don't think you made the game and I definitely don't think any indie game developer has the idea "oh yeah, we have roughly 500 active players, we don't need this guy to donate"

If that is the attitude they had they would miss out on many high-end donors, guys with thousands of dollars to donate. Though that isn't me, at least to say - i'd never donate that much...

I know for a fact that the lines "We're making plenty we don't need your help" isn't or at least should never be in the vocabulary of an indie developer.

Also, anyone with an opinion outside of the box or a reasonable suggestion is a whiny kid to you. Well... that's probably why you don't own a successful business and might not go very far.

Just judging by your condescending opinions, you're not a very tolerant person.

Most games don't mute you if you say wtf either. So yeah, I believe there should be a non-filtered chat or at least direct warnings before mute.

Like I said, same goal is accomplished. I don't see your reasoning because quite frankly, there isn't any. If somehow muting/banning people is better than warning them directly like saying, hey buddy, stop now or i'll have to mute you... then I am missing that reasoning.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Gnominomicon » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:12 am

I will once again reiterate the fact that this game is over four years old and doing just fine. If you've read the reviews on Steam, you'll notice most of them are negative, posted by people like you who think you should have the right to do and say whatever you want, whenever you want, and not suffer any consequences. Those reviews are from people who play the game for a few days, or sometimes hours, and jump to a conclusion because they broke a rule and received a punishment. Despite all those bad reviews, the game is doing well and will continue to do well with or without the donations made by those whiny children.

And for the last time, 18 is mostly anything goes. You can discuss pornography, sodomy, and any other form of consensual sex in 18. You can NOT however, discuss rape, whether it is real or simulated. Period. It is a disgusting and highly inappropriate subject. I'm not sure why you would compare discussion of anal sex with discussion of illegal nonconsensual assault.

Anyway, this is my last post in this topic. I've been here since near the beginning of the game, and I guarantee your mute was wholly justified, and there will never be an unmoderated channel open to the public, nor should there be.

This game is a hobby for the developers. They both have full time jobs, so this isn't about making money to them. They make enough to keep the servers up and that's all that matters.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Cantus » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:58 pm

The warning was given on the login screen. The part where you say you agree to follow the Game Rules when you login.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Zulrah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:01 pm

Gnominomicon wrote:I will once again reiterate the fact that this game is over four years old and doing just fine. If you've read the reviews on Steam, you'll notice most of them are negative, posted by people like you who think you should have the right to do and say whatever you want, whenever you want, and not suffer any consequences. Those reviews are from people who play the game for a few days, or sometimes hours, and jump to a conclusion because they broke a rule and received a punishment. Despite all those bad reviews, the game is doing well and will continue to do well with or without the donations made by those whiny children.

And for the last time, 18 is mostly anything goes. You can discuss pornography, sodomy, and any other form of consensual sex in 18. You can NOT however, discuss rape, whether it is real or simulated. Period. It is a disgusting and highly inappropriate subject. I'm not sure why you would compare discussion of anal sex with discussion of illegal nonconsensual assault.

Anyway, this is my last post in this topic. I've been here since near the beginning of the game, and I guarantee your mute was wholly justified, and there will never be an unmoderated channel open to the public, nor should there be.

This game is a hobby for the developers. They both have full time jobs, so this isn't about making money to them. They make enough to keep the servers up and that's all that matters.


Listen if you still don't understand then explaining it to you is pointless.

You must clearly have the IQ of a brick wall because you continue to call people children and condescend your mindless opinions on people.

I will reiterate once more that regardless if they game is doing "fine" money donated is not something people just don't care about. At any moment servers could be ddosed, a major bug can occur, developer could wreck and end up in a coma, and guess what keeps the game intact... money.

I really don't think it matters what the reasoning is behind your "we don't need the money attitude" but regardless if its from me or whiny children, the customer's opinions do matter.

Reviews on steam, many which I've seen have players with hundreds of hours. Yes, some are whiny children with a couple hours. But just because your clearly below the understanding of the common show donkey doesn't mean you should throw every single person that has a complaint including myself into the category of "whiny children"

Also, by doing that your kind of making yourself sound the same way...only a small child would repeat the same mindless insult over and over like beating a dead horse repeatedly.

Again, your definition of "well" is probably different than some of the communities as well as the indie developer that designed the game. There are private servers of the game this one was knocked off of with ten times the amount of players as this.

With that being said, I'm pretty sure although it's doing "fine" I doubt its doing overwhelmingly good to the point that no one gives a damn about money. Like I don't think that point even matters, its a business, regardless if its a hobby or not.

Also, let me duck down to eye level with you once more and explain that we were discussing rape/bdsm/rough porn which is just regular porn to plenty of people. Infact, topics like fifty shades of grey and many other adult literatures with rough porn have become kind of a hot topic.

Though I really doubt you can wrap your head around that since once again I've repeated myself and explained myself repeatedly to you so that you wouldn't do the same thing many children do when they are proven wrong which is change the subject or try and focus on a different subject to take the focus off of the other. Rough/rape/bdsm porn = acting/porn/actors/consensual rape = nonconsensual sex.

Also, instead of hearing a suggestion and understanding it you continue to just state your own overstated mindless opinion...

I have two suggestions either

A) Give direct warning messages prior to mute for example, Zulrah stop this topic or it may result in a mute.

B) Allow a channel where people can go to speak openly with exception of racism/sexism/spam/advertisement.

If for some reason you are in disagreement with both of these suggestions then quite frankly you have to be a whiny child yourself.

Those whiny children you're referring to who are complaining are actually just adults that accidently type shortened curse words or make the wrong mod mad or whatever it is that makes you think they are children, when instead they are normal average adult people who have social lives and slip up and make a mistake when they get comfortable talking amongst their in game friends.

You sir, if do not grasp that concept... please just do the world a favor and don't reproduce. I've broke it down in the most IQ-friendly and tolerant way I could... You are just not a tolerant person and have no respect for constructive suggestions or differentiation of opinion.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby sandycheeks » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:20 pm

Agreed, warnings should be given first before a mute, etc. But I do see the other side of it too, 18 allows for more adult topics, but it still doesn't allow everything, i.e rape, racism, threats, etc. Perhaps this could be outlined in the rules, here? viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3996
Considering there isn't much description under the 18 heading.
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Re: Your mods are terrible (M00derator)

Postby Kyosa » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:25 pm

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If you think we did anything wrong feel free to talk with any moderator in M chat or whisper,
pm me ingame, or write an email to support.

Forum is not the right place to solve individual problems.

Thanks for understanding.
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